I'm filling out the registration for R/A in April - do I get to pay twice, once for Saturday, and once for Sunday, for each class I'm entering?
Also, if it's $70 for the first class, are all the others, including on Sunday, $55?
By my math, if I want to run 4 classes on both days, I'm up for $70 + (7* $55) = $455, plus gate and paddock fees. Is that correct?
Thanks.
Your math is correct. $70 for your first race and $55 for each additional race over teh weekend. Thats if yo pre-register. Otherwise its $100 for teh first and $75 for each additional one.
well go figure this out.
I entered the GTO on Fri (70$)
And ULGP ($70), HWSS, HWSB, ULSS on both days.
9 races.
CCS charged me 510 $
You do the math? I cant figure this one out.
Road America has a different fee structure, like Daytona does. Good news is your $510 includes your track pass. :) The Daytona/RA maier had all the fee info in it.
REVISED ;D
1 x $70 = $ 70
8 x $55 = $440
Total = $510
I thought that the ULGP races are 70$ ??
The mailer says that the Purse paying races are 70. then 70, 55 for the other races ?
QuotePosted by: Rob940 Posted on: Feb 24th, 2003, 8:40pm
Your math is correct. $70 for your first race and $55 for each additional race over teh weekend. Thats if yo pre-register. Otherwise its $100 for teh first and $75 for each additional one
Just went by what Rob had said above to see if the amount he was charged worked out and it did. ???
If you use $70 for purse paying & $55 for non-purse paying
3 x $70 = $210
6 x $55 = $330
Total = $540
Then it looks like he got off a little cheap. ;)
What about a normal weekend, like, say, April 5-6 at BHF? I'm thinking about entering
LW Supersport
LW Superbike
LW GP
GT Lights
$70 for first class; $50 for second; $35 for any additional. BUT: GT Lights has a fixed, $70 entry fee. So - does that count if I make it my "first class" entered? Or is it another $70, in addition to the $70 paid for the first class entered??
$190 vs $225 for the four classes.
QuoteWhat about a normal weekend, like, say, April 5-6 at BHF? I'm thinking about entering
LW Supersport
LW Superbike
LW GP
GT Lights
$70 for first class; $50 for second; $35 for any additional. BUT: GT Lights has a fixed, $70 entry fee. So - does that count if I make it my "first class" entered? Or is it another $70, in addition to the $70 paid for the first class entered??
$190 vs $225 for the four classes.
It would be $70 + $70 + $50 + $35 = $225.00
Dawn :)
Tom, I'll be in the same races my first weekend. Will you be there Friday? Did you buy a race-prepped SV or build one?
QuoteTom, I'll be in the same races my first weekend. Will you be there Friday? Did you buy a race-prepped SV or build one?
Nate:
I believe from previous posts he purchased a race prepped SV from Atlanta. (Just checking out the competition you know ;))
Dawn :)
QuoteTom, I'll be in the same races my first weekend. Will you be there Friday? Did you buy a race-prepped SV or build one?
Dawn's right - I bought a 2002 race prepped SV from a Wera guy in Atlanta. Been sitting in my garage all winter, driving me nuts. Can't work on it cuz it's been so cold, and can't ride it. Just waiting, and scheming.
Looking forward to meeting you all at the races. I am on the fence about racing that first April weekend, since I will not have had any seat time on this bike at all. Was figuring I'd just go to the track and hang out - see how things work, and then enter the RA/twin sprint weekend. Maybe do a Nesba day at BHF 4/19. We shall see.
Id say go for it. Either way you need that seat time, why not come into the first weekend on the bike, and race it? It's not like it's gonna be REALLY hard to ride the machine at a quick pace, right? (Not FAST, just quick) If you come into the weekend with the goal of just getting more comfortable, what have you got to lose?
Either way, I'll see you that April weekend, and I look forward to racing against you. I'll be at the RA weekend on Friday and Sunday. #548, should be a yellow SV with sharkskinz and a GSXR tail. (Like Jesse Janich's bike last year, except mine will have a yellow lower, too)
BTW, are any other LWSS riders upset about the Firebolt being LWSS legal? Dawn, I know you mentioned the fact, but does it bother you and Paul?
QuoteBTW, are any other LWSS riders upset about the Firebolt being LWSS legal? Dawn, I know you mentioned the fact, but does it bother you and Paul?
A stock XB-9R has more horsepower and torque than a stock SV or any other bike that runs that class. That along with the race oriented design and suspension.... We would prefer that it was not LWSS legal.
Dawn
QuoteEither way, I'll see you that April weekend, and I look forward to racing against you. I'll be at the RA weekend on Friday and Sunday. #548, should be a yellow SV with sharkskinz and a GSXR tail. (Like Jesse Janich's bike last year, except mine will have a yellow lower, too)
BTW, are any other LWSS riders upset about the Firebolt being LWSS legal? Dawn, I know you mentioned the fact, but does it bother you and Paul?
Thanks for the encouraging words, Nate. We'll see. Either way, I look forward to racing
with you, not against you... ;)
Re the Buell - WTF? That is a twin cylinder, air cooled 984cc motor. The Tech Requirements for Lightweight Supersport says that bikes with like that can only be "up to 800cc". And don't even begin to try to tell me that CCS considers that thing a HD Sportster. It ain't.
Dawn - do you know anything more about this?
1000 CC air cooled pushrods are legal :(
I would not worry about the Firebolt. Some raced last year (at least I raced against one in LWGP), Ed Key had no problem beating them.
QuoteI would not worry about the Firebolt. Some raced last year (at least I raced against one in LWGP), Ed Key had no problem beating them.
Ed Key can beat just about anyone. That guy is talented. Was that on his SS SV or his SB SV?
Dawn :)
He was on his SS bike.
I beat the XB9R and I was only turning 19s that weekend at Blackhawk.
I doubt there will be many XB9Rs racing, weren't many last year. The bike is pretty expensive and you need to purchase a swingarm to be able to run a chain. They are not very fast stock.
I ran against a XB-9R at Road America and his acceleration was nowhere near my SV. My bike is not SS legal, but the Buell was waaay slower. I am not sure if it was the rider or the bike though.
QuoteI ran against a XB-9R at Road America and his acceleration was nowhere near my SV. My bike is not SS legal, but the Buell was waaay slower. I am not sure if it was the rider or the bike though.
Just curious, Numb - what about your SV made it not SS legal?
Actually Ed Key was beaten in LGP a lot last year most of which was done by a Buell.
I also doubt you will see many competitive XB9R's because of the expense.
Numb's motor is built so he can't race SS, but don't worry he is an expert now.
TZracer/Brian how fast do you, can you run at Blackhawk? I am trying to set a realistic goal this year and I have my mind set on 18's, but I am only an amatuer.
The Buell that has beaten Ed is not your average Buell.
TZ Boy, whether 18s are a reasonable goal or not depends upon what you have done in the past. Have you gotten into the teens yet? If not I would set that as my first goal. Usually I don't try for low lap times, I try to ride better (smoother, smarter) and low lap times follow.
TZs are capable of 14s or better at Blackhawk. At one time a TZ held the track record.
Brian, you avoided my question. ;D How fast have you run at Blackhawk and what do you expect to do this year?
The fastest time I have seen at Blackhawk from a TZ was Stiles doing 17's.
No teen's for me I did 20's my second weekend. I only do 2 races a weekend and I managed to go off and not crash in every LGP at Blackhawk last year.
I beleive that lap times are of absolute importance. They take away all the feelings/emotions and give you cold hard fact's. The are the basis for nowing where you are and setting goals for where you want to be. The are the resource for nowing if you are stagnating or progressing. Having said that it seems that racer's talk about their lap times as if it was their penis size.
QuoteBrian, you avoided my question. ;D How fast have you run at Blackhawk and what do you expect to do this year?
The fastest time I have seen at Blackhawk from a TZ was Stiles doing 17's.
No teen's for me I did 20's my second weekend. I only do 2 races a weekend and I managed to go off and not crash in every LGP at Blackhawk last year.
I beleive that lap times are of absolute importance. They take away all the feelings/emotions and give you cold hard fact's. The are the basis for nowing where you are and setting goals for where you want to be. The are the resource for nowing if you are stagnating or progressing. Having said that it seems that racer's talk about their lap times as if it was their penis size.
Mark did a best time of 1:16 last year. Gotta watch out for Aaron Rentschler this year... that boy is on a mission. Hopefully we'll see him doing some cool things with his TZ especially since he bought my super duper ported cylinders and FW heads from me. Paul, I know for a fact that you will hit 18's pretty early in the season. As for me.. my goal is 18's as well but probably won't get there anytime soon unless I follow you on your 1:18 lap ;D
I use lap times as a measure not a goal. The more I try for a lap time, the slower I go. I usually do my best lap times when I am working on my riding without thinking about turning fast laps.
High 17s (could call it 18s) is my best. As stated above Mark has gotten into the 16s. I would like to do 17s this year, maybe 16s. I really haven't raced since 1999. I retired in 2000. Started doing teaching with Learning Curves in 2001 (found out just before the season started and had no race budget). I was going to race last year, but my slight get off and waking up in a hospital put a damper on my season (couldn't ride for 2 months). Hopefully things will go better this year. Will race my TZ at most Blackhawks, Road America, and possibly Mid America and Gingerman.
I agree with you... lap times should be a measure of your progress as a rider not a goal but it seems to go hand in hand. It is also true that the fastest laps I've ever turned were also the easiest laps I've every turned. Seems like the harder I try the more mistakes I make so I take a more methodical approach to doing laps rather than being aggressive and trying to pass everything and everyone in front of me.
I agree that there is a fine line between using lap times as an indicator and a goal.
Goals that I used, were things like
finishing a race
not finishing last in a race
finishing in the top 5
beating an expert (as an amateur)
winning a race (amateur)
becoming an expert
finishing top 5 as an expert
winning a race as an expert
qualify for AMA/FUSA race
etc.
I tried to make goals more result oriented than lap time oriented.
Before I had an onboard lap timer, my wife used to 'encourage' me to go faster by putting up slow lap times (on my pit board). Surprisingly it worked most of the time.