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Title: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: gixxerzoli on November 29, 2010, 11:43:04 AM
I just heard and want to know is it true??
There is NO Daytona in march for us CCS racers???
I missed it this year and i plannig to go in march.
If is true, after i dont even know how many years this big tradition gonna be over!
I hope that i heard its not true!!!!!!
Anyone???
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: PJ721 on November 29, 2010, 12:23:04 PM
true...
http://www.ccsracing.us/news/pressreleases/2010/092310.html
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: gixxerzoli on November 29, 2010, 01:07:40 PM
Gosh! I am so dissapointed now!
Daytona was one of the reason i wanted to do this whole racing circus. Now its gone.
Im speachless :(
What you guys think?
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: MACOP1104 on November 29, 2010, 01:49:56 PM
i think u can go in the fall...
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: roadracer162 on November 29, 2010, 01:59:02 PM
Get your groove on all year and then attend in the fall.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: SV88 on November 29, 2010, 06:09:37 PM
This is not an entirely bad thing.  Daytona - been there done that so no real reason to return - not one of my fav. tracks @ all.  CCS should have more than 27 out of state racers willing to go to Ga.  I think that it's probably a smart move although I'd like to see the opening round further west for selfish reasons.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: tug296 on November 30, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
Hearing all the sniveling and complaints for so long, that it's too far probably didn't help, one of the worlds greatest race tracks and we, CCS were able to go twice a year.
No bigger thrill than to race there, absolutely my favorite race track.
Now down to one event in October stinks.
I sense a lack of disrespect for selfish reasons.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: George_Linhart on December 01, 2010, 10:23:06 AM
Quote from: tug296 on November 30, 2010, 10:54:48 PM
one of the worlds greatest race tracks

That is your opinion.  However, I would beg to differ.

Daytona is interesting, but it is not a great motorcycle racetrack.  I wouldn't even list it as one of the best tracks in the U.S.  - Mid-Ohio, Barber, Road America, Road Atlanta are great race tracks in the U.S., Daytona, not so much...

I think your confusion is between the track and the history of the track.  The Daytona national and internatioanl races have history - going back far longer than the current track - and that history is the only reason that it is even a mildly interesting track to consider attending.  Realistically - it is not even unique, if you want a high speed track which runs on the banking of a superspeedway you can ride Pocono FUSA track in Pensylvania or TWS in Texas.  The biggest difference is that these tracks don't have the same history as Daytona.

However, you are certainly entitled to your opinion.

George
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: tug296 on December 01, 2010, 11:18:28 AM
Yes, confusion overwhelmed me for a moment, what was I thinking?


Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: gixxerzoli on December 01, 2010, 11:25:26 AM
Yeah! you guys are propably right!
Daytona is not the greatest track at all. So hard on the bike, so effin expensive, lotta restrictions, and the list going on and on.
BUT....also so unike and different. As soon as you get inside, his spirit catch you and it feels good.
For me /Jersey guy/ also a great oppertunity to go racing somewhere end of february when here usually snowing.
I know Homestead is there too, we have been there before but that is just too far away.
And the bikeweek also....tell me you never had fun to go out and enjoy yourself some night after races!
In october date is fine too. But usually at that time my pocket is totally empty. I really cant afford to go that time.
Well i think, i will learn living with the fact Daytona doesnt exist anymore. Times  changing,  we gonna use to it.
The new generation racers not gonna even know.
I would say Goodbye Daytona!
I will miss you!
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: GSXR RACER MIKE on December 01, 2010, 11:53:41 AM
Daytona is an expensive venue, it's easy to see that having it in the Spring of 2011 would almost be a guaranteed financial loss (possibly significant). With what would most likely not be enough entries to cover the cost of the Spring Daytona event, I applaud CCS in considering the long term financial health of the entire Racing organization by sacrificing the Spring event FOR 2011. Is that to say there will never be another Spring Daytona event? I think when the general population is instructed by the media that the economy is OK again that fair weather racers will start racing again and the Spring event would then have a chance of returning.

That's my opinion!  :thumb:
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: MELK-MAN on December 01, 2010, 01:53:04 PM
Although 2x a year would be great, 1 x will be better than zero. I totally agree it is hardly the greatest track, but also agree about the spririt of speed being contagious as soon as you come out of the tunner driving in. I just love the place.. period. Not exactly the best test of who is the best rider all the time, but WFO in 6th gear, side by side or maybe a double draft, feeling the wind buffet ya around. INCREDIBLE .. i feel very very lucky to have done to have raced there a number of times during my time here on earth.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: SV88 on December 01, 2010, 04:31:03 PM
Daytona was better when we had a decent infield but to me it still lacked variety with a flat infield.  This is where TWS shines in my humble opinion.  Now with the new configuration it is closer to a drag strip since 70% of the lap is spent on the banking.
RA is a little better and I like it because it has elevation changes and I had my first and only 2 wins there ever.  However it could use more corners.  Those 3 long straights are awfully long particularly on an SS SV.
Mid O, Barber, VIR, Hallett, Gingerman, Grattan - now those tracks rock for motorcycles....
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: roadracer162 on December 01, 2010, 06:12:01 PM
I am certainly with you Henry and Greg. I share the same sentiments to have at least had the experience and being sucked into the draft. It is One of the "Great" racetracks whether for cars or motorcycles.

I do believe the auro that abounds Daytona is that it is primarily a builders track. Build a great bike and you will have an advantage. Build an awesome reliable bike and it will make it to the end. One of these days I hope to do one of those Team Challenge races there even if it's on my FZR400.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: Team Spalding on December 01, 2010, 07:16:36 PM
I love Daytona. We have not missed a round in 3 years.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: Ducmarc on December 01, 2010, 10:02:25 PM
If there wasn't some kind of allure unique to the place you would not see some many riders show up from europe and japan one year I pitted next to a mexican team they drove the whole way here.  I think most come for the ahrmadillo races but race ccs also. You have think there are some guys in some far off country discussing this same topic right now.    Roebling where? Georgia? Is that near Poland?
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: tug296 on December 02, 2010, 12:49:18 AM
I like Roebling Road, great flowing etc, just raced a Corvette there last weekend, great fun, but much more fun on the bike.
Guy from Texas crashed his 2009 ZO-6 into the pit wall at about 130 after cutting turn 9 to close to the inside rumble strips, he was hitting 150+ and 1.17 laps, car destroyed, he was lucky to get out with a broken ankle, broken wrist and a puncture to his neck from his seat belt's, then airbags knocked him out.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: f3racer on December 02, 2010, 10:52:11 AM
get an ama competition license and run daytona.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: motomaniac on December 03, 2010, 01:46:16 AM
Quote from: f3racer on December 02, 2010, 10:52:11 AM
get an ama competition license and run daytona.
$450 for a license is a little pricey if you ask me.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: f3racer on December 03, 2010, 11:10:31 AM
https://home.ama-cycle.org/amajoin/07app/step1.asp?tmpnum=IJAP05

says here $39, what am i missing?
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: Andi on December 03, 2010, 11:42:47 AM
Quote from: f3racer on December 03, 2010, 11:10:31 AM
https://home.ama-cycle.org/amajoin/07app/step1.asp?tmpnum=IJAP05

says here $39, what am i missing?
That's for an AMA Membership. Way different.

http://amaproracing.com/assets/2011-AMAPro-ASB-and-DSB-license-app.pdf
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: d-wire on December 06, 2010, 08:39:21 AM
While I would hardly call a track with 6 corners a "great racetrack" ......it is fun as hell to ride.  Getting a big draft out of nascar 4.....and throwing it into turn 1 on the brakes is a blast.  But racing there.......eh........

I might do the AMA round there.  I wonder how bad the place will be on tires after the repave.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: MACOP1104 on December 06, 2010, 09:22:55 AM
Quote from: d-wire on December 06, 2010, 08:39:21 AM
While I would hardly call a track with 6 corners a "great racetrack" ......it is fun as hell to ride.  Getting a big draft out of nascar 4.....and throwing it into turn 1 on the brakes is a blast.  But racing there.......eh........

I might do the AMA round there.  I wonder how bad the place will be on tires after the repave.

Dunlop is testing there on Dec 18-19th,  They'll make new tires off of the results then test again before the AMA race.  Then again, things might change after the cars get out there.
Title: Re: Daytona 2011 ????
Post by: ahastings on December 06, 2010, 08:37:38 PM
Unfortunately the first CCS round at roebling is the same weekend as the AMA races at Daytona.