2003 Top 10- new rule

[Tiffiney Kelcher]

For the amateur division, I do the combined points total the same as how I do it for the experts.  Sportsman, GP Singles, Super Singles and Formula 40 classes do not count towards the overall standings.

[the_weggie_man]

I understand amateurs are not running for a number plate but that does not change the rule book that says all classes are combined for a total point championship. The only excluded classes are for experts.  

To me that says all classes count. So in the total am point total my rider is missing points which is not right.  With all points counted it moves him from 18th place to 11th. Granted, not top ten but close enough for a kid that only ran half the season and it sure would look nice on a resume  for sponsors.

I realize it may be more work to run am and ex different but that's what the rule book says. The riders are expected to abide by the rule book, why not the organization?

[Eric Kelcher]

Where does it say that? rule book that says all classes are combined for a total point championship.
The only thing Am run combined points for is track championship which would be section 10.3 which lists the same classes as expert series championship (which is what program Tiffiney to give riders a guage ) and says Expert AND Amatuer.

[the_weggie_man]

OK, I guess the overall amateur points is not an announced championship. I still think all classes should be counted.  Isn't that why you race?  If nobody wins, why keep score?

The rule book does say (8.1) Points will be awarded based upon the final results of each class run at each race using the following scale. Re., each class at each race. That does not say specific classes at  each race. I'm not talking experts or track championships. I refer to amateur overall points. If you consider it a guage as to their performance I think all point would matter.

[Super Dave]

Historically, what happened was that there were riders trying to get championships.  At the end, they were putting together loads of bikes to ride in all kinds of classes.  Additionally, guys that were over 40 could do a race that riders under 40 could not do.

So, the rules were changed so that only the classes that "did not require specialized equipment" would be counted.

I still think it's kind of bogus.  The overall championship should be limited to a certain number of races per rider, or something.  At least give some a fair shot.

I can't afford nine classes a weekend.  Anymore, you buy your number one plate.  

[sdiver68]

 With all points counted it moves him from 18th place to 11th. Granted, not top ten but close enough for a kid that only ran half the season and it sure would look nice on a resume  for sponsors.

List him as 11th on the resume, maybe use the words Amateur Total Points.  In the 1 in million chance a potential sponsor ever questions the difference, explain it.

Problem solved.

[the_weggie_man]

We have agreed to disagree. CCS explained their position, I don't agree with it but I can't change it at this point.

I will be putting in a rule change suggestion for next year.  At least make it clear about what classes count for amateurs and give the top ten amateurs some kind of recognition. Maybe not a top ten number for track use but at least some kind of award for their efforts. They spend just as much money as the experts and should get something in return as the experts do for the numbers.

My case rests.