CCS Registration

[gixxer188]

The word on the street is that CCS is avaialble for sale, so why would Kevin put anymore money into it?

[steve p]

Anymore would imply that he previously did.

[MELK-MAN]

Anymore would imply that he previously did.

brilliant logic.. jeeze.

[Burt Munro]

 Do you need some happy pills Steve? 

You know that entries for this level of racing have been hit real hard the last couple of years - even at Blackhawk which used to be one of the best attended tracks around.  This isn't the fault of CCS or the way they run things.  Everybody is hurting.  People who used to have the money for an expensive hobby don't have it like they did a few years ago.

Kevin has had plans to upgrade the registration system in the works for at least a couple of years as well as updating the transponders.   If the revenue isn't there to fund these improvements it won't happen.  When he can't make money at a track like Blackhawk we need to find ways to make it better, not take pot shots at the owner.  Yeah, I know, returning telephone calls doesn't cost a lot of money.
I don't have an answer for you there.

You're entitled to your opinions.  But do you really think that a guy whose whole life is invested in this business (and is his sole source of income) is going to intentionally do the things you're accusing him of?  I'm sure he'd like to make the changes that everyone else would like to see....  the money to do that has to come from somewhere and right now it's not coming from entry fees and race licenses like it used to.


Rick

[nafterclifen]

Why spend money on new transponders, what's wrong with the current ones? 6 out of the 7 I used this year worked fine. When the one failed, the results were adjusted based upon manual scoring and I had a new one for the next race. Props to CCS for that.

Westhold already has a section of their site to upload results too, something I think everyone would be happy about. Am I missing something here?

[Eric Kelcher]

I only know part of the issue regarding Russell and the lap time website he was keeping and as a sub for ASRA I am not privy to current info nor cannot I express opinions beliefs of ASRA.

There are many times that riders with certain talents; artist/graphic, computer programming, storage space whatever; have made offers to ASRA to try to help improve things not only for ASRA but most often with some sort of incentive for them selves. Most often this comes in the form of we will design, supply, store, do something for ASRA and they get to sell advertise market that product receiving part/all of the proceeds. Ie design tshirt promoting ASRA event/series and split profits, have website that provides info for ASRA riders and sell advertising on website, develop scoring program and receive free entries, store equipment etc.
Almost without exception at some point the one giving the "gift" has stopped racing and/or doesn't have time to continue gift for income derived. At that point they believe that service they provided is invaluable to ASRA and ASRA should fund it. Would you continue to return calls for a product you are not interested in purchasing after a deal was made that did not involve your outlay of money for a product you didn't want to buy to begin with? Maybe product was outdated, maybe you had already bought/ordered a replacement?

As to online entry again it was a "gift" that overwhelmed system and there were entries lost due to it creating a nightmare in 2006. I know it is 5 years down the road and I know there are things in the works to speed entry, not only pre entry but post entry, at track processing, result posting, and contingency reporting.

[Boober]

I'm not buying. How come you guys have time to post excuses in the off season? I would have thought all that paperwork would keep you away?!

[Eric Kelcher]

Boober are referring to me?

I work part time as a subcontractor for ASRA processing contingency now, while I previously was full time employeed at ASRA before my divorce. Now I am remodeling commercial properties and this time of year is real slow and I happen to be home sick today so I read thru the board today and lent what info I do have to couple of topics. Guess I'll go back to watching TV.

[steve p]

Do you need some happy pills Steve? 

You know that entries for this level of racing have been hit real hard the last couple of years - even at Blackhawk which used to be one of the best attended tracks around.  This isn't the fault of CCS or the way they run things.  Everybody is hurting.  People who used to have the money for an expensive hobby don't have it like they did a few years ago.

Kevin has had plans to upgrade the registration system in the works for at least a couple of years as well as updating the transponders.   If the revenue isn't there to fund these improvements it won't happen.  When he can't make money at a track like Blackhawk we need to find ways to make it better, not take pot shots at the owner.  Yeah, I know, returning telephone calls doesn't cost a lot of money.
I don't have an answer for you there.

You're entitled to your opinions.  But do you really think that a guy whose whole life is invested in this business (and is his sole source of income) is going to intentionally do the things you're accusing him of?  I'm sure he'd like to make the changes that everyone else would like to see....  the money to do that has to come from somewhere and right now it's not coming from entry fees and race licenses like it used to.


Rick

Rick, I understand all of this.  The point being that you have to continually evolve and change as a business to keep up with the times.  I've had to do it in my business or I would be in dire straits.  CCS Midwest is in a time warp and is no different than it was in 1990 when I started.  There have been many suggestions made how to improve and change, only to fall on def ears.  Some good, some not so good.

CCS, from what I'm told, is doing great in other regions, so why change anything is the philosophy I guess.  MELK-MAN lives and rides in one of these regions so its all peaches and cream for him.  After spending last year in the Midwest paddock you would be hard pressed to find many supporters of the CCS program.  Registration is only one small area of the larger problem of which we don't need to really address here as it has all been brought up numerous times in other threads.

I get upset because the talent pool in the Mid-West is pretty deep with a lot of talented people.  Some are not returning this year because it's just not worth it.  I myself am choosing to do something different and won't be back as well.  Some of the stuff I witnessed throughout this year was just beyond embarrassing, conflicting, and unprofessional.

Not taking pot shots, I would love to see some major changes and the grids get back to a normal size.  I just don't think its going to happen going down the current path, regardless of economy.

I will pay my gate fee for the weekend to come watch my friends race though.

Good luck to all.