When did CCS tube the Spotsman classes?

[Super Dave]

George, you might be onto something...

Doesn't cover the whole "demographic", but it does explain some of the change.  Fewer willing to be part of the competitive crowd. 

[poppop587]

Not that it would work, but maybe that dyno and a scale would be the best thing to have.  At least that would take the major money out of the game.

[Super Dave]

Cost, time, and the ability to have multiple maps make trackside dynos a little impractical. 

[Ducmarc]

now that i'm an old crippled guy there is an allure to ahrmadillo racing. no next nicky hayden althuogh there's doug polen . there seems to be a class for almost everybike in the garage except late model 4 cylinders.they have a trhimph spec class that seems to work. they also are a club and they have gone bankrupt before. they only have a few road races so it makes it an event. they also don't seem to mind riders spending thouands on there bikes. i've never raced wera and there classes seem confusing but that maybe because i haven't raced with them.  what do they complain about? us? or the same problems we have. ive bought a few wera motors and their destroked 748s seem anything but cheap inside. i do think 5 years ago lightweight was for cheap guys and cripples but then a few guys with deep pockets and not enough nerve to ride a 200hp  1000 found the class fun. so now you have 50k bimotas. outlaw them and you will have 50k SVs. ten years ago how many sets of olins forks did you see? now everyones buying gas charged sets.  i think its all sour grapes because chris boy  is a ducati guy and not in to SVs lol. if it were'nt for him you guys would not be able to spell bimota. maybe you should outlaw ducati motocorse. how about do like disney have a class hopper pass pay 200$ and race every class you want.   lightweight is hopeless kill it now and put it out of its misery

[MACOP1104]

I think some of you pricks need to realize that there is a difference between being cheap and racing what a person can afford. 

[George_Linhart]

I think some of you pricks need to realize that there is a difference between being cheap and racing what a person can afford. 

You have every right to pay your entry and race what you can afford as long as it meets satety standards.

What the hell gives you the right to dictate that rules should be changed to make what you can afford as the leading equipment in the class ?  The rules have been unchanged for 5+ years, now because you want to win more races our bikes should be come illegal?  That just reduces YOUR competition, it doesn't increse the grids what-so-ever.

[MACOP1104]

I'm not dictating shit.  I'm stating my opinion on how I think the class should be set up.  You don't like what I have to say, then don't read it.  You guys love your big air cooled twins and that's fine.  My opinion is that the lightweight class should have some concession for a racer that can buy a supersport legal lightwieght for a reasonable amount of money and have a level playing ground.  I guess you could say ULWSB fills that need but you all think the SV is too much bike for that class.  You wanna boot the SV out of ULWSB fine, but then you need to level the playing field in LW.    I love supersport racing because it levels the playing field with riders on equal equipment.  That's true for all classes except lightweight. 

[banzai1]

about 2004 is when they got the boot.

[dylanfan53]

Most of us have already raced the antiques that you want to use as an excuse to boot out better machines.  That was then, this is now.  I think we're breaking a record this winter for whiney LW threads...and that says something.

[MACOP1104]

Most of us have already raced the antiques that you want to use as an excuse to boot out better machines.  That was then, this is now.  I think we're breaking a record this winter for whiney LW threads...and that says something.

I don't think you understand what I would like to see.  Let me spell it out.

Aprilia cup bikes, Motards, EXs, HAwks, and FZR400s would be in a Sportsman class with SBK rules

Ninja 650, SV650, Duc800 in LWSS (also ULWSB but limited to SS rules)

air cooled 1000s 1100s 1200s allowed in LWSB

everything above allowed in LWGP, Thunderbike, GT Lights.

i listed the class limits, and of course you can raise up for additional classes.