ultralite

[Cowboy 6]

I have seen built SV's making 115HP at the rear wheel.

LOL! You mean someone told you that's what it made....    115 at the rear wheel.... ROFL !!  You're killing me.

[Cowboy 6]

Do I have to get on my soap box again?

Ducati 100SS (1000?)to superbike rules which is quite competitive in the LW Superbike class. 
George

I bet it is. Come visit us in the Mid-Atlantic region or roll down to FL. For some reason, Ducati's seem to be a good deal slower in the Mid-West.

[Ducmarc]

finally i got people to start talking a little  lol.   it's been pretty slow on this site all summer.   i don't really see the argument against the 900  i'm not talking about a 944 kit or a 1000 motor  and where's the reasoning for allowing the SV in ultra light  to began with.  for anybody with  with a true ultra lite the rules are shot to death.  so the most competive light weight bike is allowed to drop down  with a rediculous supersport claus but any other bike  is told oh well buy a new bike.   how about allow turbo's on the ex 500 then.      better yet markie ship that thing up to me and we'll build a SS legal standaed bore 800 with abou 95 HP and drop the weight down two about 320

[majicMARKer]

You know Marc, I was thinking that I had spent too much money on this Duc800 after totalling my cost and found it to be $10K. Then I spoke with a couple SV riders and Bill has $7000 in his supersport with a bone stock motor and another expert with some $11K into his bike. I wish someone would tear me down because it could really use a rebuild.

[CounterSteerer]

LOL! You mean someone told you that's what it made....    115 at the rear wheel.... ROFL !!  You're killing me.

Sorry, You are right that is my mistake. I quoted the Bimota HP  for the SV.
 Larry Zullo built SV's for Mike Mills that made 101 HP at the rear wheel.

[Ducmarc]

larry larry larry larry larry larry larry larry      the lobster        markie find us some 800 cases for next year

[MACOP1104]

LOL! You mean someone told you that's what it made....    115 at the rear wheel.... ROFL !!  You're killing me.

Ya I was wondering about that one.  Still, a 115hp Bimota is unreal!  Like I said, let them race LWGP, LWSB, Thunderbike, and GT lights.   Keep them out of LWSS

[Cowboy 6]

Ya I was wondering about that one.  Still, a 115hp Bimota is unreal!  Like I said, let them race LWGP, LWSB, Thunderbike, and GT lights.   Keep them out of LWSS

I agree but they need to run SS rules in those classes. As should the 1000DS etc...

[majicMARKer]

The DS1000 is certainly a suitable ride, just not as light as the Bimota.

Still back to topic of Ultralight. It is the only place for me to run my FZR400 and not get totally annihilated. Maybe if I was allowed to run the 560 motor that could give me enough to keep up?

[Ducmarc]

no that would be changing the rules to help one perticular bike making and old bike competive with a new one is not acceptable      unless it's a suzuki     you got twelve bikes sell half and buy a new one   or build it anyway and don't tell anyone like eveyone else does.  you going to ride ROC     i'm thinking about going for one of those tainted cups on a bike that should be illegal   what you think?

[majicMARKer]

I like it. I must ride the ROC especially because it is in the backyard(100 miles). Even if I sold all my bikes I wouldn't be able to afford that Bimota. maybe I can afford your Ducati 748? You gonna let me ride it in October for Moroso and ROC? How much to rent it?

[scubabill]

I like it. I must ride the ROC especially because it is in the backyard(100 miles). Even if I sold all my bikes I wouldn't be able to afford that Bimota. maybe I can afford your Ducati 748? You gonna let me ride it in October for Moroso and ROC? How much to rent it?

How about a buy-out clause. Say somewhere in the neighborhood of $12-15g.
Maybe a minimum combined weight at around #550.

[Gino230]

How about a buy-out clause. Say somewhere in the neighborhood of $12-15g.
Maybe a minimum combined weight at around #550.

Claiming Rules!

Now THAT is a good idea. How would you set the max, though? $20K? I spent $14 putting together my SS legal 1000DS....you can't even buy a Bimota for under $35K....

[MACOP1104]

No more superbike in ULWSB for me.  My SBK is getting punched out 2mm to a 677 so I'll be on my SS bike for now on. 

[majicMARKer]

No more superbike in ULWSB for me.  My SBK is getting punched out 2mm to a 677 so I'll be on my SS bike for now on. 

There are a few quite fast SS SV's out there. I know of one claiming 84hp and I believe it. There are others out there I am sure that have more so you won't be terribly way off in performance for Ultralight.

I seem to be the only Ducati 800 rider on the grids  in Ultralight. Don't tell me it's cost because the guys that are on the SV that I am racing and competitive with has spent the same amount if not more on their SS legal SV.

The stock Duc 900 from what I can tell on the track is faster than my 800 but not by much.

I guess the decision must be made whether the rules are fixed or if the rules are subject to amendment. We talk about how participation has gone down. If the only way for a rider to be competitive is to buy a new bike every 2 seasons then we will most likely lose even more of the grid. Should the rules be based on the current crop of bikes that are available? Or should concessions be made for older slightly less competitive bikes?