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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #1 on: August 05, 2010, 11:49:30 PM »
Interesting...
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=41496

So we link up Friday night at BHF instead of Thursday night, Jason?
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #2 on: August 05, 2010, 11:55:32 PM »
So we link up Friday night at BHF instead of Thursday night, Jason?
Would you two take the planning of your sexual encounters to a private chat please!   :spank:
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2010, 12:25:21 AM »
As a 20 year veteren of the racing series across the us I first want to say the CCs series and the Midwest saftey crew are the best in the world.... you will not find any better... i have watched the decline of participation on the grid and we as a whole can not complain....... in order for for the CCS and us as a whole need to promote from within ..... the economy has been tough on all of us but in order to build we must bring new talent to the track.... we all know people who would like to be part of this sport..... bring them out..... i quote Rick Brewer " 2% of the american people ride motorcycles ....... 2 % of that 2% race motor cycles its up to us to build this series. .........AMA Who?.... Lets go people bring people in and lets move on........

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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2010, 12:43:30 AM »
Would you two take the planning of your sexual encounters to a private chat please!   :spank:

I knew that was the wrong thing to say as soon as I wrote it...... :banghead:
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2010, 06:47:20 AM »
You racing at BHF this month, Mark?

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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2010, 08:05:08 AM »
You racing at BHF this month, Mark?

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No...School starts that week and we are gonig to the GP in Indy the following week and Gateway is the week before. Only so much time and $$$ to go around.

Planning to come up for the September round.

I will get a hold of you when it gets closer.

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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2010, 08:37:38 AM »
Mark,
I got the ol yellow diesel out the other night and dusted her off and gonna see if she's track worthy. Even drove it around town in race trim.

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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2010, 10:41:57 AM »
Well as a normal Sunday only competitor - doesn't affect me much other than the breaks between races....going to be a busy day

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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2010, 07:17:17 PM »
Thunderbike, F-40/Femmoto and then LW F-40 back-to-back-TO BACK... then sit around until the very END of the day for SuperTwins??!?  I don't like to complain but I think they could have done a better job of splitting things up as they squish 'em all in.
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2010, 10:47:33 PM »
I knew that was the wrong thing to say as soon as I wrote it...... :banghead:

Rick's just jealous...  You can still pitch you tent across from us  :lmao:
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2010, 09:08:15 AM »
Well this really sucks, i dont really care about getting rid of friday practice but to do all the races in one day is not a good idea, i now will have 10 races in one day and 2 of them are gt races, puts alot of races back to back to back to back, who needs to practice all day on saturday, have practice in the am on saturday and ealrly afternoon and still race saturday afternoon, if that does not happen then i will be thinking of canceling some races and now ccs has lost even more money
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2010, 09:18:52 AM »
Well this really sucks, i dont really care about getting rid of friday practice but to do all the races in one day is not a good idea, i now will have 10 races in one day and 2 of them are gt races, puts alot of races back to back to back to back, who needs to practice all day on saturday, have practice in the am on saturday and ealrly afternoon and still race saturday afternoon, if that does not happen then i will be thinking of canceling some races and now ccs has lost even more money

Ditto!!

I'm not racing nearly the amount of races you and jason are doing...I have no desire to run a bunch of back to back races...I think I'll be canceling a couple of races also. 
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #13 on: August 09, 2010, 10:42:01 AM »
Ditto!!

I'm not racing nearly the amount of races you and jason are doing...I have no desire to run a bunch of back to back races...I think I'll be canceling a couple of races also. 

Well there goes any chance at making any contingency money of which keeps me going to the next race.
If CCS doesn't change this schedule it might be over for them for the rest of the year.
There is no point in my racing if there is no contingency money to be made. If we are not riding then there is no point in the tire vendors wasting their time coming to the track since there will be no sales and it not worth their time. If there are no riders then there are absolutley no fans to watch any races.
Gron4 will have nobody to take pics of and the list goes on and on.

CCS? You know the golden business rule right?? 20% of your customers bring 80% of your $$ right??
If you take Brian, Ortega, myself and a couple others, of which enter a large amount of races and we fold.... There is no series!! If there are less riders then the current contingency companies will not payout anything. Brings us back to the no reward thing for our results. The tire guys will have hardly a point to come to vend tires. They barely make enough money toto turn a profit as it is.
If I don't get any contingency $ from tires there is no point to me riding period.
I think CCS should leave it the way it was. At least for the Red Flag event also!!
I'm seeing a low turnout for the Red Flag fund as many riders are pissed and might not even show up what I'm told.

I planned on bringing family & friends to watch this next weekend but it hardly makes sense if it is all in one day. I can't even take a damn piss between races much less even acknowledge that my friends & family are even at the track to watch me.

Just wait for the first red flag incident when I lap a first time amatuer and scare him right off the track. Not fun for anyone.
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Re: BHF to a 1 day race sechdule for the rest of the year.
« Reply #14 on: August 09, 2010, 02:31:43 PM »
Hello Jason,

You know the biggest rule in business? You have to make more than you spend and 275 entries doesn't come close to paying the bills.  I'm not any happier about this than you are, but I can't afford to shell out $10,000 more than I take in at every race.

You talk about needing contingency money to keep going, we need entries to keep going and they just aren't there right now.  The first race this year at BHF did okay with 450 entries and 500 gate passes but July's race with 275 entries and 300 gate passes was the worst it's been in 25 years at BHF. With even fewer pre-entries for August than there was in July we had to do something.

And this goes beyond the Midwest region too. Mid-Atlantic is averaging 600 entries still but 2 years ago it was 800 entries. Florida was 600 entries two years ago and now it's 400. Loudon used to be 900 entries two years ago and now it's barely 600 entries. And if you think it's the organization, you only have to look at WERA's numbers. Two years ago they averaged 470 entries per Sportsman race, they are currently averaging 359. There is not a single area in the United States that is seeing an increase in motorcycle road racing numbers. (Don't even get me started about track days.)


It is unfortunate that you, Brian, Dan and other riders who have supported us are going to have to cut back on the number of classes you run but we understand completely that you can only physically do so much in one day. Some of you remember several years ago when I talked about the fact that since we were growing in numbers, we didn't have to raise prices to CCS races. Well when that stopped, we have been in a never-ending battle with the budget ever since. The bottom line here is that we either went to the one day schedule or just cancelled the season, so I chose to keep the series going  rather than abandon those who have supported us for all these years.

You as racers get to vote with your entries on whether you support this organization. I hope that you stay with us and help us get through the next couple of seasons by doing whatever it takes to keep the Midwest region alive and racing.

Thanks to all of you who support CCS racing.
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