Bridgestone 2010 Contingency payout

[JBraun]

there is no battle, I have used both tires and michelin`s have better feel and there front tires are in a class of there own. you cant compare the ones we use to gp or world superbike, its different rubber and has alot to do with $$$ just like dunflop and ama. Its is put up for bid with certain things that ama want.

Michelins are good tires for sure, I always did well on them. But "feel" is not an ojective category. You might like the Michelin front, and I might prefer something different.
Obviously motogp tires are special. But the WSBK tires really aren't. If you have 16.5s they're obtainble. The world supersport guys are running tires identical to the ones you get from your Pirelli vendor at a CCS race.

[wfomotorsports]

I think my lack of talent disqualifies me from judging the performance differences of Bridgestone vs Michelin tires, but I did purchase enough tires in the last couple of years to judge trackside support.

In 08 I ran the bt03s and I liked them, but could not get any support from the vendor. Sometimes he was at BHF with tires, most times he wasn't. He had what seemed like random sizes and compounds in stock. The worst part was when I asked him what to run for hot/cold tire pressures, and he said "well, I'm not really sure".

I can't think of a CCS practice or race day when Tommy's big yellow truck wasn't present.
For that matter, it seems like Dustin's party bus looking setup is always there as well, and I've given him plenty an opportunity to rag on me while mounting Bridgestone tires because no Bridgestone vendor was at the event.

I hope Turn One Racing can change my image of Bridgestone tire trackside support.

Back to the lack of talent piece...I crashed less and went faster on the Michelins...

+1  on  trackside support.... look forward to a more supportive season from the stone vendors.

[Sklossmonster]

The world supersport guys are running tires identical to the ones you get from your Pirelli vendor at a CCS race.

I'm not so sure about that.  They're a lot closer to what is commercially availlable than MotoGP technology, but the World level of competition is usually at least one step ahead of what you can actually buy.

Either way, they're still great tires.  I love the Pirellis, and I'm sure if I spent enough time on the new Dulops, and  the new Michelins they'd be excellent tires as well.  They just cost too much in my opinion and they're contingency doesn't pay as much, doesn't pay as far down, and requires more riders on the grid to get paid at all.

All this talk of tires and contingency is making my insane.  Is it Spring yet? 

[red900]

WSS, Same tire Marshall, I promise.      WSBK, that is a different story. 

[Sklossmonster]

WSS, Same tire Marshall, I promise.      WSBK, that is a different story.

Wow, who says spec tire series aren't good for the sport?  I always did like the feeling from my Pirellis, almost as much as I like my Bridgestones 

It should be a good year for club racing this season.  The economy is finally starting to show some signs of recovery, Pirelli's got a new paying class on the grid with actual qualifying, I'm sure Dunlop and Michelin will be as good as ever, and the Bridgestone contingency payouts are off the hook.

I'm looking forward to this season more than every, now if we can just find the time to actually ride!

Come on Spring 

[Mike829]

I want to ride too, but i need all the time I can get to get my bike ready, something always comes up.  april 17th will be here before you know it!

[stickboy274]

I hope the Bridgestone payouts are good. I didn't set the limits, but I did a lot of research and asked for a bump in it. Theymoved around some funds and allocated them to the racers. I'll have my crew at RRR and CMP. It will be me, or Josh there to help out anyone who needs it.

Go out and get a lot of those Certs. I want people to be getting thier tires paid for by Bridgestone.

[Sklossmonster]

+1  on  trackside support.... look forward to a more supportive season from the stone vendors.

Those of you in the Midwest can now rely on Turn One Racing for comprehensive trackside support from a full line of Bridgestone race tires to the invaluable services of our very own Joe Denowh, certified motorcycle mechanic, suspension technician, and engine builder. 

We also stock a complete inventory of brake pads, levers, tire warmers, sprockets, and all manner of high performance parts and accessories, and we're at every CCS Blackhawk, Road America, and Gateway event.

Look for the Turn One Racing flags in the pits, visit our website for a complete description of what we offer, and feel free to contact us with any questions you may have.  We're happy to help.

[backMARKr]

It should be a good year for club racing this season.  The economy is finally starting to show some signs of recovery,

that is some funny shit right there.....

[Sklossmonster]

... starting to show some signs ...

I'm not saying we're out of the woods yet, but I've had an unusually large number of friends out of work due to this depression, and the job opportunities have definitely picked up in my little corner of the world.  But I'm also in Chicagoland, where 2010 budgets and the optimism of Spring have both been renewed.

A lot of the indicators going on right now are just that, indicators.  It won't really affect most of us for a while yet, assuming it continues to improve, but it seems like it's already bottomed out and is on the upswell.

Holy crap, am I being an optimist here?  Never thought I'd live to see the day.  Oh well, never say never!

[backMARKr]

I'm not saying we're out of the woods yet, but I've had an unusually large number of friends out of work due to this depression, and the job opportunities have definitely picked up in my little corner of the world.  But I'm also in Chicagoland, where 2010 budgets and the optimism of Spring have both been renewed.

A lot of the indicators going on right now are just that, indicators.  It won't really affect most of us for a while yet, assuming it continues to improve, but it seems like it's already bottomed out and is on the upswell.

Holy crap, am I being an optimist here?  Never thought I'd live to see the day.  Oh well, never say never!

sure am glad Chicagoland has their budgets renewed....that is, of course, the only important part of Illinois....

Not trying to kick you Marshall (as I don't even know you) so please don't take it as personal attack....but things have not bottomed out in Illinois.

Be happy that Spring is coming and new race season....for sure.

Good luck this season and with the Bridgestone effort.

[Noidly1]

Chicagoland = OBAMALAND
He's takin caya his brothahs in da hood...

[benprobst]

Chicagoland = OBAMALAND
He's takin caya his brothahs in da hood...

You sound like a bigger tool than usual here Noid, congrats.

[Noidly1]

Whatever Ben.

[Sklossmonster]

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Skloss; Correct me if I'm wrong, (shut-up Ben...), But from what I have heard is that the Stones that the GP guys are running are from a differrent division than what the club level has access to and are developed by the Indy car division. The ones we have access to are from the street tyre division.

Of course the tires at the Moto GP level are not what anyone has access to, but my understanding is that just like every manufacturer in the motorcycle industry the lessons learned trickle directly down into the products available to the racing community.  I've wondered why the slicks come packaged so differently than the DOTs, and why the compound codes and tire terminology is different from the slicks to the DOTs.  I'll find out and get back to this thread with what I learn.

Just wanted to let everyone know what I learned regarding this question.  All Bridgestone motorycle race tires are made in Japan, and although the slicks and the DOT's come from different departments they do both come from the same division, motorcycle race tires.

The new Type 3 DOT front has been designed to share the same profile as the slick front, for smooth transition between slicks and DOTs.  Joe and I have been running them at the last few rounds and although we're both still getting back up to speed (and working more than riding), we've both gotten down into the :12s on them now at Blackhawk and they still look and feel great.

With the contingency program they have and the support TurnOneRacing now provides Bridgestone riders in the Midwest region, I'm suprised more riders haven't tried them yet, but with the lap times I know are capable with these tires I'm sure that will change soon enough