ditto on the 600's as for my ducati's I just screw them together and go homestead proved it's not the bike but the rider fernando rode my clapped out 900 to third in gt lights and 3rd in thunderbike ( the 748 had a chassis problem) turning a 1.33 in the tbike race as a new team owner i'm delighted as a rider I feel like a fat pig I own a 89 rs 125 and its a really neat bike but need a 250 to haul my butt around