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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #15 on: May 07, 2007, 02:16:51 PM »
your so cute...

you would never do well as my accountant!!!   :biggrin:

My guess is they werent entirely "accurate"
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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #16 on: May 07, 2007, 02:32:30 PM »
I hope CCS pulls their license......for ever. 

What would really be cool if WERA did the same.  If they would lie/cheat so they can race AM there is no telling what they would do when racing EX at a WERA event.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #17 on: May 07, 2007, 02:44:50 PM »
Well, if it turns out that these are the very same racers, I'm sure CCS will take appropriate action. As far as WERA goes, I don't know that they would do anything because this was not a WERA event. You can bet that they will be watched more closely, though. Stupid thing to do, and not very sportsman like. Sponsors see this stuff and want nothing to do with this type of rider.
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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #18 on: May 07, 2007, 02:51:56 PM »
"Sponsors see this stuff and want nothing to do with this type of rider " Thats a very good point! Hope they see it.
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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #19 on: May 07, 2007, 02:54:04 PM »
If this is true, I would have moved up one place in 3 races, including a 2nd place in one of them.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #20 on: May 07, 2007, 03:32:50 PM »
Well, if it turns out that these are the very same racers, I'm sure CCS will take appropriate action. As far as WERA goes, I don't know that they would do anything because this was not a WERA event. You can bet that they will be watched more closely, though. Stupid thing to do, and not very sportsman like. Sponsors see this stuff and want nothing to do with this type of rider.

If I was WERA, I would kick them to the curb for the hell of it (it's not like they will make or break WERA).  There is no place in this sport for scum like these two.  The sport would be better off without them.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #21 on: May 07, 2007, 03:42:18 PM »
We don't really have a reason to do anything to them however I wouldn't mind either one not racing again.  Always seems to be something with the two of them every weekend.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #22 on: May 07, 2007, 05:44:03 PM »
Eliminate their results from this weekend, and pull their right to race in CCS as experts or amateurs. 

Similar thing happened at Daytona last year and CCS pulled the wins.  There were some very fast LW amateurs as well, I was dicing with one and I finished 4th in EX.   This is wrong and the punishment should be severe.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #23 on: May 07, 2007, 05:47:08 PM »
Just to play devils advocate.  Is it possible they recieved their WERA Expert status after they recieved their CCS Am status?  If that were the case, would CCS run them as Ex or AM?  As a disclaimer I don't know either of them.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #24 on: May 07, 2007, 05:56:32 PM »
Just to play devils advocate.  Is it possible they recieved their WERA Expert status after they recieved their CCS Am status?  If that were the case, would CCS run them as Ex or AM?  As a disclaimer I don't know either of them.

They both raced the WERA weekend at Summit a couple of weeks ago as Experts.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #25 on: May 07, 2007, 06:04:28 PM »
I think that CCS has a policy to license newcomers as experts if they hold EX credentials in a comparable series.
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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #26 on: May 07, 2007, 06:08:11 PM »
I think that CCS has a policy to license newcomers as experts if they hold EX credentials in a comparable series.

That's what I've been told as well. I assume these two asshats lied a little on their applications.

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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #27 on: May 07, 2007, 06:08:20 PM »
Same with WERA.
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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #28 on: May 07, 2007, 06:25:35 PM »
The problem is that CCS does not do background checks on license applicants, nor should they be expected to.  It is assumed that applicants will tell the truth about their participation with other clubs.  So unscrupulious applicants can lie if they choose to.  Problem is, this sport is small.  How would you expect NOT to be caught if you tried such a scam?  Even worse, how could you expect to be treated with respect by your fellow racers if you were caught trying to pull something like this?
Kevin Elliot and Eric Kelcher are fair men.  CCS will do the appropriate thing if these allegations are proven true.  If they ARE true though, CCS will only be able to deal with the points, finishing positions, and license status of the riders in question.  The real punishment needs to come from the racing community.  Someone who'd pull such a move doesn't deserve a hello, a bottle of water, a brake lever, help with his rear stand....  In fact, you probably shouldn't piss on a guy like that if he was on fire!
Personally, I'm a SLOW Expert.  I'm not competitive with a white plate.  This year, CCS somehow accidentally bumped me down to Amateur status.  I thought about that for maybe ten minutes, then called and told them they'd made a mistake.  I've had my glory as an amateur.  It's someone else's turn.
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Re: Cheaters @ Summit Point
« Reply #29 on: May 07, 2007, 07:08:35 PM »
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